Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax TV: Pennsylvania Lawsuit First of Many Efforts

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The new effort by President Donald Trump's legal team asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn three Pennsylvania Supreme Court decisions is just the first of many efforts to overturn what they see as a fraudulent election, Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani tells Newsmax TV.

"You have to go state by state," he told "Spicer & Co." host Sean Spicer on Monday, acknowledging even a victory in the case would only net 20 electoral votes — not enough to give Trump the 270 needed to secure reelection.

"I remember an old adage that I learned from baseball," Giuliani said. "When you're down by 10 runs, you can't score 10 runs on one hit. So you got to get one run at a time. So the way I look at it, we have to win one of these legislatures. I think we have three good ones to pick from: Pennsylvania, and Georgia, and Arizona."

Giuiliani said he thinks his team has demonstrated enough fraud in any of those cases – "that the state legislature has a very, very strong basis to make a determination the election in those three states were stolen."

The state legislatures are the final arbiters, he said, under the U.S. Constitution, and that is why his team has been holding hearings in various legislatures to present their case the votes filed were not accurate.

Asked about a reported White House meeting in which Trump discussed appointing former Trump team lawyer Sidney Powell as a special prosecutor to investigate election fraud — as story Trump has called "fake news" — Giuliani said:

"Let me say definitively: Sidney Powell is not part of our legal team. She hasn't been for five weeks. She is not a special counsel for the president. She does not speak for the president, nor does she speak for the administration. She speaks for herself. And she's a fine woman, a fine lawyer. But whatever she is talking about it's her own opinion. I'm not responsible for them. The president isn't, nor is anybody else on our legal team."

He added, he and the team will be "extremely aggressive" in their fight, but added, "We're also going to do it within the bounds of rationality, common sense, and the law."

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