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ABC host appears shocked by Trump-Biden post-indictment poll

ABC's Jonathan Karl appeared shocked by a poll conducted after Donald Trump's indictment, showing him in a "statistical tie" of four points behind President Biden.

ABC's Jonathan Karl appeared shocked Sunday by a poll conducted after the indictment of former president Donald Trump that put him just slightly behind President Joe Biden in a potential 2024 election rematch.

"A poll from Quinnipiac on a [a] possible Biden/Trump matchup puts Biden at 48%, Trump at 44%. This is a poll, again, taken largely after the indictment. I mean, that’s going to make you – that’s within the margin of error. That’s a statistical tie," Karl said on "This Week."

He asked the panelists, "What does that say about Biden if he's barely beating" Trump?

Donna Brazile, former chair of the DNC, said the poll showed the country is "very divided."

Jonathan Karl

ABC's Jonathan Karl speaks during an episode of ABC's "This Week."(Screenshot/ABC/ThisWeek)

"It says the country is very divided. The country is really looking to get beyond 2020. It says a lot about where we are as a nation and not where we are in terms of whose personally popular at this time," she said.

She went on to argue that Biden had a "remarkable story to tell."

"I don’t know why anybody should go around talking about Donald Trump when you’ve created 13 million jobs, when you’ve got 35,000 projects all over the country invested in America, rural America to urban America. I don’t know if anyone should spend all their time talking about a former president who’s been indicted and faced more charges when you talk about what you are doing to help the American people lower prescription drug prices," she said.

Republican former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan noted that both Biden and Trump had low approval ratings and that a majority of the country did not want either to run for reelection.

President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden speaks at the University of Tampa on Feb. 9, 2023. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

The Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday found that Biden leads Trump 48 percent to 44 percent.

Another poll conducted after the indictment found that almost half of the country supports the indictment and that 47% of Americans think charges against Trump are politically motivated.

Hogan also weighed in on the possibility of a third-party candidate and argued that, while it sounds "crazy," it might be possible due to Biden and Trump's unpopularity.

"Never before in history have I seen a time where this might be possible, and it’s possible," he said.

Former President Donald Trump

Former President Donald Trump appears in a campaign-style ad posted to his Truth Social account in 2022. (Donald Trump/Truth Social)

Brazile argued that Americans want "change" and "stability" and suggested that might be what No Labels, a centrist group that hopes to help launch a third-party candidate in 2024, is about.

"They definitely want stability, but Joe Biden and Donald Trump are not ‘change,’" Hogan said.

Trump pleaded not guilty in federal court on Tuesday to 37 felony counts that stem from Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the former president's alleged improper retention of classified records at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.


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